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22 August 2007
SPEECH: National Press Club

Speech to the National Press Club
Parliament Buildings



Members of the Press Club, I want to talk this afternoon about democracy, about freedom of political expression, and about the Electoral Finance Bill which is currently before Parliament.

This is not just a poorly written bill, not just an ill-conceived bill, and not just a bad bill, although it is certainly all of those. Most of all, this is a dangerous bill. It is dangerous for all of us as individuals, it is dangerous for our democracy, and it is dangerous for New Zealand.

We should rightly be proud of our democracy. It is a very real New Zealand achievement and we should celebrate it. A lot of other countries never made it. Plenty have tried democracy and let it slip through their fingers. Other countries never had the chance.

Next year, like many of you, I will be watching the opening ceremony of the Beijing Olympics. I want you to remember when you see the flags of almost 200 countries come marching past that only 27 of those countries are full democracies.

Only 27 countries, encompassing only 13% of the world's population, are full democracies, with universal suffrage, with free and fair elections between competing parties, with freedom of association, and with freedom of speech. New Zealand is one of those countries, and New Zealanders are part of that 13% minority.

One of the key planks of democracy is that all citizens are free to express themselves on all political issues.

They are free to criticise the government. They are free to criticise the opposition. They are free to promote policies they like and protest against policies they abhor.

They march, they make placards, they deliver leaflets. They produce brochures, they send emails, they build websites. They take out advertisements in the paper, they call public meetings, they circulate petitions.

Two of the most powerful examples in recent years have been the debates over the foreshore and seabed, and over the smacking legislation. People had strong opinions, they were organised and they had their say, often loudly. A healthy democracy doesn't just tolerate this – in fact, it requires it.

A quiet, obedient, and docile population; a culture of passivity and apathy; a meek acceptance of what politicians say and do – these things are not consistent with democracy.

A healthy democracy requires the active participation of citizens in public life and in public debates. Without this participation, democracy begins to wither and becomes the preserve of a small, select political elite.

Freedom of political expression has a price, however. The price is that we have to hear opinions that we don't like, and that we don't want to hear, from people we can't stand. For us politicians, the price is an endless stream of criticism. Well, that's tough.

Politics is a contest of ideas, and ideas should be publicly discussed. Ideas should be tested and ideas should be criticized.

That leads me to the Electoral Finance Bill.

Its title is misleading. This bill is not primarily about electoral finance. It is about the determining the amount, timing, and content of people's expression on political issues.

English sportswriter Martin Johnson once said there were only three things wrong with the England cricket team – they can't bat, they can't bowl, and they can't field.

In a similar vein, I think there are "only" three things wrong with the Electoral Finance Bill – the regulated election period is ludicrously long, the definition of publishing an election advertisement is ludicrously wide, and the hurdles that third parties have to jump are ludicrously high.

Length of the election period

First, the length of time during which free speech is regulated and restricted has been hugely widened.

Currently, this period begins three months prior to polling day. The bill extends the regulated period to cover the entire year in which an election is due, starting from 1 January.

So next year, when you wake up on New Year's Day, you will find that you are in an election period. It may not feel like that. You may think you're on holiday at the beach or at a camping ground. Politicians and elections are likely to be the furthest things from your mind.

However, this bill makes it so that from 1 January on, and for up to 11 months, you are in an election period where free speech is tightly regulated and restricted. Because this period is so long, New Zealanders could spend up to 30% of their adult lives in a period of restricted speech. That is totally unacceptable.

Definition of an election advertisement

Secondly, the definition of publishing an election advertisement has been widened enormously.

In this bill, an election advertisement includes any form of words or graphics that encourages people to vote for or against parties, or for or against candidates. That's fine – no one would disagree with that.

But the bill also introduces a new type of election advertisement. The bill counts as an election advertisement any form of words or graphics that takes a position on a proposition with which a party or a candidate is associated.

On top of this, the definition of publishing an election advertisement covers buying advertising space in a newspaper – which you'd expect – but also includes handing out a leaflet, displaying a placard, issuing a press release, sending an email, posting on a website, and mailing a letter. The definition is so wide that it includes almost all forms of communication except for speaking to someone face to face.

I'll give you an example of how bizarre this will make things.

The Green Party is opposed to battery farming of chickens. So next year, from 1 January, if you express a view about battery chicken farming – apart from just talking about it – you will be considered to be electioneering.

If you want to communicate your like or dislike of battery chicken farming – if you put an ad in the paper, put a photo of battery chickens on a website, put out a press release, or send an email to your friends about it, then you will be considered to be electioneering and your communication will be considered to be an election advertisement.

Then other measures click in. The bill will consider you, or the organisation you are part of, to be a "third party" – that is, you are electioneering but you aren't a political party and you aren't a candidate. There are lots of rules about third parties and I'll come to those in a moment.

You don't even have to be expressing an opinion on who should be the government. You may not even care. You might be trying to put pressure on all parties. You might be trying to put pressure on farmers. It doesn't matter in this bill.

In fact, it is so ludicrous that if you write a letter to your grandmother saying: "Dear Gran, thanks for your omelette recipe but I don't believe in buying battery eggs", then that is considered under this bill to be an election advertisement.

The effect of this new definition is actually to put politicians in an incredibly privileged position in our society.

In an election year there are no restrictions on publicly discussing an issue until such a time as a party or candidate takes a position on that issue. Once a member of the "political elite" has taken a view, however, every other New Zealander is restricted in how they can advocate on that issue. In an election year, ordinary New Zealanders are relegated to being second-class citizens.

Regulation of third parties

The third major problem with the bill is this. If you are a third party – that is, if you or your organisation wants to have a say on political parties, or candidates, or their election policies, or any position they are associated with, in an election year – then this bill places so many onerous restrictions and demands on you that you'll probably wish you had never spoken out in the first place.

If you are a very minor participant, and in the whole of the election year you don't think you are going to spend more than $5,000 on what the bill calls election advertising, then you will have to make a statutory declaration.

You will have to declare before a Justice of the Peace or a solicitor that you are not going to spend more than $5,000, and you will have to give this declaration to anyone who runs your ads, or hands out your leaflets, or displays your placard, or hosts your website, or posts your letters.

If, on the other hand, you think you will spend more than $5,000 then you will have to register with the Chief Electoral Officer. You will have to register with an arm of the government in order to express your opinion! You will have to appoint a financial agent to be responsible for your election-related expenses, and you will probably have to appoint an auditor as well.

After the election, you will have to file a return with the Chief Electoral Officer which sets out your expenses for all forms of communication on what the bill considers electioneering.

You will also have to reveal the names and addresses of everyone who has given you a donation of $500 or more, which has even indirectly contributed to funding your election advertisements. If you don't know who has given you a donation, and it is over $500, then you will have to hand this money over to the Chief Electoral Officer.

And you better keep a good record of how much this is all costing. Because the total amount of money you can spend in an election year, on any form of communication that touches on election policies, or any position any party or candidate is associated with, is $60,000. That would pay for one full-page ad in the New Zealand Herald and one in the Dominion Post and barely leave you with loose change.

This bill – this bill which the Government says will "help promote participation in parliamentary democracy" – says that no one, except political parties, can take out more than two full-page ads in a major newspaper over the course of an entire year about anything touching on politics.

How dare the Government propose a measure like that. Do we live in a democracy or don't we? Are we free to express ourselves on all political issues?

In this country you have a right to have your say on Labour policy, on National policy, on Green policy, on any policy you like, and you have a right not be muzzled by the government.

Think about what would happen if the smacking debate or the debate about the foreshore and seabed occurred in an election year under the provisions of this bill. Discussion of these issues would have been restricted and debate would have been muted. And that would have suited the Government just fine.

Many of you are probably thinking that this is just too dreadful to be true. Surely, some groups of people get exemptions from these ridiculous rules.

Well, yes – there are exemptions. The media gets an exemption, as do bloggers. Organisations can directly communicate with their members, for example through newsletters.

But the biggest exemption is for MPs, who can publish whatever they like if they are doing it as an MP. That includes spending taxpayers' money on a pledge card. If Labour puts out a pledge card in the next election, it will not count towards the Labour Party's election spending cap.

The bill, therefore, has the effect of loosening the definition of advertising for politicians while tightening it for almost everyone else. That's pretty much it as far as exemptions go.

Also, government departments can continue to spend unlimited amounts of taxpayers' money publicising policies, as we've seen with the millions of dollars of KiwiSaver and Working for Families ads – and they can do this right up to the day of the election.

Basically, this bill is saying: don't you worry, citizens of New Zealand – leave all the politics to politicians, the media and bloggers. We'll tell you what to think. You can trust us.

National's proposals

Ladies and Gentlemen, this bill constitutes a huge threat to freedom of expression in this country.

This deeply flawed and anti-democratic bill needs to be ripped up and tossed in the bin.

The Prime Minister says there's no need for that. She says any problems with the bill will be ironed out by the select committee, which contains representatives from all parties.

The problem is we are not talking about ironing out glitches, or correcting drafting errors, which is what select committees are good at. We are talking about a bill that is a total and utter mess. It is so heavy-handed it replaces 32 sections of the Electoral Act with 158 of its own. And we are talking about a bill that has been developed in completely the wrong way.

When it comes to changing aspects of the electoral system – which determines how parties get elected – the government of the day has a duty to act in a completely transparent, fair, and non-partisan manner. It must scrupulously avoid proposing changes to the electoral rules to favour itself.

So I think that after the bill has been ripped up, two things should happen.

First, there should be a genuine multi-party approach to reviewing the rules around electoral financing.

Any change to the laws governing elections requires widespread support from across the political spectrum. New Zealanders will not have confidence in an electoral bill rammed through by a slender majority without public support and with the backing of only the bare minimum of parties necessary to get it through Parliament.

Secondly, a review of electoral financing should work off the existing law, which is contained in the Electoral Act.

The provisions in this Act have served us well and there is no need to scrap them entirely. In support of this, I should point out that almost all the problems people point to in the 2005 election were, in fact, breaches of the existing law. The existing law caught them. The trouble is that none of those breaches were ever prosecuted.

The Government has made no case for wholesale change and, in lieu of any convincing arguments, can make only hysterical statements about the actions of the Exclusive Brethren.

Our view is that changes to the rules around electoral financing can be accommodated within the framework of the existing law.

For example, we would support a limit on third-party spending in an election period. Political parties and candidates are capped in their spending so it makes sense that third parties are as well. Organisations should not be allowed to spend unlimited sums of money trying to influence an election.

We are also prepared to see changes that make donations to parties more transparent. The fact there are no such proposals in the Electoral Finance Bill is because Labour chose not to include them. It is not due to National in any way whatsoever. We have consistently said we are open to changes in this area.

We also think there needs to be better enforcement of election law. As I just said, there were numerous breaches of the electoral law at the last election but none of these were ever prosecuted. So, rather than introduce a completely new bill, the priority, surely, is to enforce the existing law properly.

After the election, the Government promised to consider giving agencies the tools and resources they need to properly police electoral law breaches. That has not happened and it is a mystery to me why it has not.

There are some provisions in the existing law, however, that we do not think should be changed.

Among other things, we are totally opposed to further state funding of political parties. The public of New Zealand, I might add, are also opposed to further state funding.

National considers that the election period, during which free speech is regulated, should not be extended. The current election period, which is the three months before polling day, seems to me at the limit of what could be considered an election campaign. After all, we typically get only six to eight weeks notice before an election is held.

Extending the three-month period is the cause of many of the problems with the Electoral Finance Bill.

Take, for example, the definition of election advertising in the bill. In the last few weeks of an election campaign, ads that criticise or support policies associated with political parties or candidates might reasonably be considered election advertising. However, the same ads run earlier in the year may not. The bill does not distinguish between these two situations.

Electoral law should be about regulating election activity, not regulating social debates that happen to occur in election years.

What the Government has done in drafting this bill is essentially to marry together the broad Canadian definition of an election advertisement with the long election period in the United Kingdom. This cherry-picking of rules doesn't reflect the internal logic of either the Canadian or the UK system, and has resulted in a muddled and incoherent proposal.

We need to retain a sensible election period. But even the three-month period has some problems. As I said, elections are typically announced and conducted within six to eight weeks. So it is impossible to know whether your spending at any point in time is or isn't within the regulated election period. You only find out later on.

In my view, political parties and other organisations need to know in advance when the election is to be held so they can comply with the law. I think serious consideration should be given to making the government give three months notice of the election date. When such notice is given, the regulated election period could then begin.

National also thinks third parties should be cut some slack. Reading the bill, I get the impression the Government considers third-party participation in elections to be distasteful and only barely legal. Under sufferance, the Government can bring itself to tolerate some involvement, but only if it is regulated to within an inch of its life.

And this is a Government which says it wants a system "where everyone has the opportunity to participate" and "where every person can hear everyone else's voice clearly and transparently". Well, all I can say is that the proof is in the law you write, not in the words you use.

Conclusion

Ladies and Gentlemen, I believe you get the democracy you are prepared to stand up for.

Here in New Zealand we often take our democratic freedoms for granted. We think they will always be there. We have a Bill of Rights which is supposed to protect our right to freedom of expression. What on Earth could go wrong?

I have a different view. I believe what Thomas Jefferson said – that the price of freedom is eternal vigilance. We cannot and we must not take democratic freedoms for granted.

Because, in reality, it is not a Bill of Rights that protects our rights. It is not up to a solicitor in the Crown Law Office or an official in the Ministry of Justice. In the end, it is not up to the government at all.

The protection of rights lies with us, the citizens of New Zealand. There are times when we have to stand up for our rights, and the rights of our neighbours and friends, and indeed the rights of people we totally disagree with, or else these rights will begin to erode away.

And this, I say to you, is one of those times. Because this bill is an assault on what it means to be a New Zealander, and this bill is an abuse of the trust we have in the government to protect the institutions that make us proud to call this country home.

It is not the government's freedom of expression that will be curtailed by this bill, but your freedom of expression, and the freedom of expression of every New Zealander who is not a politician or a newspaper editor.

We should count ourselves lucky that standing up for democracy in this country doesn't involve marching through tear gas, or printing leaflets in a hidden cellar, or standing in front of a tank.

But little battles can be as important as big ones. And, though it is not as glamorous or as terrifying, you are just as much fighting for democracy by putting a submission on the Electoral Finance Bill.

You don't have to agree with my analysis of what should change. You should make up your own mind and you should express it with the courage of your convictions.

That is what living in a democracy is all about.

Thank you.

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#1 - Lee Clark 2007-08-22 13:10 - (Reply)

Good to see altruism in politics is alive and well.

#1.1 - David 2007-08-22 15:54 - (Reply)

A great speech! There is nothing good about this bill it should be torn up.

#2 - David Baigent 2007-08-22 13:14 - (Reply)

re National Press Club speech/214 Not a moment too soon.. Is Geoff Palmer the author of the EF Bill ??

#2.1 - Roger Baldwin 2007-11-12 21:38 - (Reply)

Hiya John Couldn't agree with you more. Democracy in NZ is under attack. Perhaps Rob Muldoon was right with his "reds under the bed" beliefs. Another attack on our rights is the National Policy Statement on Electricity Transmission. This proposed policy rides right over the rights of residents and property owners along the route of high tension electricity lines in favour of Transpower hiding behind the limitations of the Grid Investment Test. A further limitation on democracy is postal voting for Local Government Elections. This process is so open to abuse and I believe affidavets have been sworn stating people have been approached to allow others to fill in their voting forms but neither the police nor returning officers have taken any action. This results in some candidates or their helpers delivering huge quantities of voting papers to the returning officer. It would be interesting to see what the results of Local Body Elections would be if we returned to Polling Booth elections as we do for "national" elections.

#3 - Tony Stuart said:
2007-08-22 13:54 - (Reply)

Outstanding speech! This truly is an insidious piece of legislation, and needs to stopped in its tracks. It is a cop-out for Clark, Cullen, Burton, Peters et al to say that the Select Committee can sort this out. The EFB is fundamentally flawed, both in its intent and its execution. Hopefully, this speech will be a rallying call to the media.

#4 - Scott 2007-08-22 13:56 - (Reply)

I couldn't agree more. I thought your speech was well argued. It appears to me that the exclusive brethren has become an excuse for the Labor Party to crack down on views that it does not agree with. I think that the exclusive brethren did nothing wrong but were merely a group of businessmen who were against the policies of labour and the Greens and happened to belong to the same church. It certainly has not been proven to me that they spoke as official representatives of the exclusive brethren church. Although Labour may not agree with their views they have a perfect right to express them. In the same way the trade unions regularly express to their members and the general public not to vote national. I totally support your position and agreed that the Bill should be scrapped.

#4.1 - Peter Cleland 2007-08-22 15:33 - (Reply)

I totally endorse these sentiments. Great speech John!

#5 - B Couprie 2007-08-22 14:30 - (Reply)

No wonder the Labour Government are so reticent about adressing this matter during question time! Keep the pressure on these duplicitous people, and preserve our precius democracy. *Kill the Bill*

#6 - Jeremy Laurenson 2007-08-22 16:53 - (Reply)

Yes the bill should be torn up but that's not really the issue. Everyone knows that the bill is a disaster but there seems to have been little comment on just why Labour thought that it might get away with putting it up in the first place. The most worrying feature is not that the bill is flawed but that the government of the day seriously put it forward. It says a lot about that government. So, all the talk about fixing things in the Select Committe process is irrelevant. You can't fix this bill by any process but the issue is really how do you fix people who think like this and believe sufficiently in their own mantra to put such stuff forward. That's the really worrying issue. Good speech.

#7 - Carl Forster 2007-08-22 18:55 - (Reply)

Very well Put Mr Key. It is about time the NZ voters realised that this LABOUR goverments 3 terms they have eroded our rights and bend out laws to their hidden agender (DICTATORSHIP). The 97 election will see LABOUR in the backbenches so far back they will be invisibale.

#8 - KJ 2007-08-22 19:18 - (Reply)

Kill The Bill! Well thought out Mr. Key, I wish the election was sooner so we can get rid of the wicked witch!

#9 - David Sims 2007-08-22 19:23 - (Reply)

Question for John K. In the event that the govt. is successful in getting this bill passed into law in basically the same form as it is presently presented and your party was to assume the role of government later this year, what initiatives would you take on this particular piece of legislation during your currency of office?

#10 - Lindsay Addie 2007-08-22 21:36 - (Reply)

Superb speech, one of the best in NZ politics for a very long time.

#11 - Tom Griffiths 2007-08-22 21:54 - (Reply)

Brilliant Speach, it worries me that this bill is not as eye catching to the public as the anti smacking bill - so that it may slip by with most people wondering what all the fuss is about. I FOR ONE WILL BE MAKING A SUBMISSION AGAINST THIS BILL AND I EMPLORE ALL TO DO THE SAME!

#12 - Allan King 2007-08-22 23:29 - (Reply)

Well put, and well written John. Any people any where, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up, shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is most valuable-a most scared right, which we hope and believe, is for the good of freedom, liberty and justice for all. Any government is there at the whim of the people, for it is they , the people of this country, expect, and demand that they (the government) shall not govern for them selves, but for all, and in a fair and resolute manner .

#13 - Sauni 2007-08-22 23:34 - (Reply)

I agree with you Mr Key on this bill. The labour is just waiting at the end of the race so that they can use their chances of being in the government to make things sounds ewasy but practically hard for all New Zealanders. I strongly oppose to this bill on the ground that it is not fair for voters to get dragged of when the election will be held. As the matter of fact, we want to know who is the best candidate to represent us and the party that can lead the country. However, giving not enough time is just a political tool that used by the Labour to manipulate people so that they can rush to their vote in the last time of the election. We need more time and need more of our politicians to come out and show what they will give to the country in the next 3 years. Six to eight weeks are not enough and limiting the advertising of our policticians and the way they want voters to know about what they have for the country, is absolutly unfair.

#14 - Michael Gibson 2007-08-23 06:58 - (Reply)

Audrey Young is reporting this issue beautifully - her comments are particularly worthwhile. Thank you.

#15 - Rhea Dasent 2007-08-23 15:54 - (Reply)

I am horrified that the Electoral Finance bill has reached this stage. To include discussing policies that may be associated with a political party in the definitions of electioneering is so encompassing. Any thing we write to our friends and family about is probably associated with one party or another. One of the things that makes NZ such a great place to live is our ability to express opinions, pass on ideas and vote based on our understanding and knowledge of parties. Great speech John, keep up the good work making NZ a place we can all be proud of.

#16 - Barry Brill 2007-08-24 19:35 - (Reply)

Excellent speech - which lifts our sights to the principles which go to the roots of being a New Zealander. Away from the gossip/trivia/party squabbles which currently dominate public debate. I'm worried about ANY further restriction on electoral finances. US-based "Public Choice Theory" contends that people in democracies vote with both ballots and donations and to remove one leg is to invite more and more popularism. This is a even greater risk in an MMP environment.

#17 - Ross Calverley 2007-08-24 21:29 - (Reply)

I for one am sick of the arrogance that the Labour Government is showing and this is just the lastest and most blatant example of that. I personally feel this is an attack on New Zealander's rights and freedoms and should be treated as such.

#18 - Blair L.J.Treadwell 2007-08-25 13:07 - (Reply)

Good hardhitting speech,John. This is a fascist style bill. It is of concern that there are people in the current labour government who are prepared to promote this thinking. as there were in the government of Germany in the 30's.

#19 - Linda Cavanagh 2007-08-25 15:22 - (Reply)

I agree with the sentiments expressed by Mr Key. Labour are out to quieten all opposition to ensure that they have the power to remain in government. Our rights as citizens of this country should be upheld and our right to speak out about issues is paramount to democracy. Specifically, I agree with the 3 month notification of an election and that this notification should be prior to the actual beginning date of this period.

#20 - Ian Harvey 2007-08-25 15:38 - (Reply)

Excellent speech which addresses the issues forthrightly and directly. Why have the media mentioned if for one day and then dropped it?

#21 - Harry Rodd 2007-08-26 07:33 - (Reply)

In reply to Ian Harvey, Tracy Watkins has crafted an excellent follow-up on Page A18 of the Dompost of today, 25 August. What is more, she has said where the speech was given which is against her newspaper's usual policy.

#22 - Greg said:
2007-08-26 12:29 - (Reply)

Labour has expressed some destain in actually folowing its own electrol consitution/parliametry rules anyway so what is the point of this law except to mussle those of its opponents. For instance recall the election to parliamentof MP's with Dual citizenship. surely conflicts of interests there, loyalty yu ask well look at the British MP (Can't recall name) who spied for the Soviet union said in Parliament he didnt, ok bit off the mark but backs up a conflict of interest point. I could on where labour has ingored its own laws but whats the point. What we need is a real consitution. isnt the PM looking into that, I wont hold my breath.

#23 - Lyn Harrod 2007-08-26 13:00 - (Reply)

Congratulations John Key! We are fortunate as New Zealander's to have your clear,honest and sicinct leadership in this difficult position as oposition leader. Keep up the good work....You are not to be fooled and neither will the majority who will vote for you at the next elections.Thankyou for the information we are able to read via your newsletters. Lyn Harrod.

#24 - Bronwyn 2007-08-26 23:31 - (Reply)

JOhn, I am voting for you! I am sick of governments that say this, say that. My husband and I both want you in! If we could we would vote twice!! Keep up the good work, John, look forward to seeing you in office! Cheers Kevin and Bronwyn Edwards

#25 - Jim Benson said:
2007-08-27 09:08 - (Reply)

The secret ballot is a great thing and protects the right of voters to support whoever they wish without fear of the government or the soon-to-be government. Similarly with donations. We may not support the Exclusive Bretheren or PPTA or whoever but they must be able to support whatever party without expecting the vitriol we have seen from the current government. Labour have provided the example of why we should maintain the right to privacy in donations and campaigns. They can characterise it as conspiratorial, shadowy, background forces if they don't like the message but that is the nature of free speech.

#26 - Ian Heays 2007-08-27 10:54 - (Reply)

I disaprove with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it.Obvisiouly Der Helen puts Voltaire in the same basket as Johnny Farnham.For the future of NZ we must get rid of this Robert Mugabe look a like government.I see a very dirty personalised election approaching,hang in there John and continue the good fight.

#27 - Ken Chandler said:
2007-08-27 11:58 - (Reply)

Mr Key, why should taxpayers money in the first place be used by politicians to fight for the forthcoming elections? Successful candidates will earn further from the Treasury for the entire term! If funding from the Treasury is allowed this should be a limited amount in advance only and to be repaid with a stipulated time after a Parliament is in place. How the candiates/parties do their fundraising should be open and transparent so that any 'special favours' later in the Government's term could be scrutised. There would be many forms of media and general watchdogs to keep an eye on improper deals! The restriction of campaigning should be at least 3 months before the polling date.

#28 - Ken Chandler 2007-08-27 12:07 - (Reply)

Good on you John..the Labour has to go before the total demise of freedom of NZers is gone so far to recover at all. You are guaranteed 6 votes from my household and another 100 or so from friends. The current difference in the margin is writing on the wall and the panic state of Labour is open in the face of people. Go National Go!

#29 - Brendan Mcneill 2007-08-29 19:36 - (Reply)

John Good work on exposing the Electoral Finance Bill for what it is, an affront to freedom of speech in a liberal democracy. I wonder if the ANZAC's could have imagined, a generation removed from WWII that we would see proposed legislation like this in our nation. Socialism is only one step removed from totalitarianism. Keep up the good work. Kind regards, Brendan

#30 - jonathan rumens 2007-09-03 16:02 - (Reply)

Mr. John Key, may all of NZ wake up to your warnings about Marxist based Labour. First the Media must wake up and realize they need to listen to these things.

#31 - Carol 2007-09-04 03:43 - (Reply)

A downside of MMP is autocracy. In terms of politics, this country's people are not a happy lot these days. There's a constant undercurrent of dissatisfaction bordering on embarrassment at the policies being put upon us, e.g. the anti-smacking bill which was opposed by all caring NZers. If all your policies are as well thought through as your speech on the Electoral Finance Bill, and also the subject of democratic right to expression, then lets hear all of it please, without consideration for the dollars because it is our right to hear what you have to say. Aren't we the ones paying for your rights to be heard John?

#31.1 - Luke Bailey 2007-09-07 11:33 - (Reply)

I find it hard to see MMP as an autocracy.Surely its a lot less autocratic than FPP? If any bill goes though parliament its because its supported by over 61 members of a parliament which under MMP we have a lot more of a say in determining the makeup of. We are just unlucky to have had 1 percent more NZers voting for uncle helen rather than for National. To see MMP as an autocratoc system is erronous.Would you rather go back to the days of Lange and Roger douglas running rampant and ignoring totally their electoral mandate?? As i see it, National has had a hard time of adjusting to MMP politics.But, having got it right at last will show how good for the counry proportianal representation is

#32 - Allen 2007-09-23 17:11 - (Reply)

Great stuff! Down with SOCIALISM before there is nothing left for our grandchildren!

#33 - hinamanu 2007-10-15 20:46 - (Reply)

wow,, I've never voted National in my life but that speech was iconic. and it wouldn't surprise me if Geoff Palmer had drafted the bill This speech is election winning stuff

#34 - Tony said:
2007-11-09 09:16 - (Reply)

John - NBR reports that the EFB will be back before the House next week, and that the government will seek to push the Bill through the remaining stages under urgency. I am gravely concerned at this development, and believe that most "informed" New Zealanders, i.e. those who have taken the time to understand what the EFB seeks to do will be likewise concerned. I am also troubled by the comparative silence coming from National on this issue. I would be greatly reassured by your comments that National remains vehemently opposed to the EFB, in the form in which it went to the Select Committee. I believe that the EFB is the government's Achilles heel, and attacking the government's credibility over its attempts to stifle free speech through this insidious leguslation represents a major opportunity for National to win the next election. I look forward to your comments and reassurance.

#35 - John Key said:
2007-11-09 18:15 - (Reply)

Thanks for your comments, and I can assure you that National remains vehemently opposed to the Electoral Finance Bill. Since the Bill was introduced in July we have invested considerable effort to bring this anti-democratic bill to the public's attention. We have relentlessly attacked the bill every day in Parliament. My quick count shows that we have asked the Prime Minister and the Minister of Justice 38 primary questions and about two hundred follow-up questions. Mark Burton's ineptitude at answering questions on this topic from Bill English is one of the reasons why he was sacked as Justice Minister. We have also put out 20 press releases on the bill since July. I talked about the bill in my National Party Conference Speech, as did Bill English. In August I gave a widely-reported speech to the National Press Club, slamming the bill as being a threat to our democracy (http://www.national.org.nz/Article.aspx?articleId=10863). Newspapers have generally taken an editorial stance opposing the bill, and stories have appeared in the papers from time to time. What might help to get more coverage is to write letters to your local newspapers. This might assist in making the bill and our stance on it more newsworthy.

#36 - Alex Meldrum 2007-11-10 08:10 - (Reply)

Hi John. Your opposition to this insidious legislation is both articulate and well documented. The problem lies in where the battle is being fought. The bulk of the electorate do not appreciate just what Labour are trying to do here and so the outrage so far is restricted to those who take an active interest in politics. Your message must get to a wider audience and I would have thought Billboards would be the perfect medium. With this approach your point of principle is made, considerable political capital is gained and the Bill(s) can be defeated. If this Bill gets through Labour will try something else to make your job of getting onto Govt even harder. I urge you to get mean and really start taking the battle to Labour rather than sitting back and waiting to see what they dish up next. Regards and keep up the good work

#37 - gary jackson 2007-11-10 12:27 - (Reply)

John Key speech to Press Club Impressive and informative John, this speech in its entirety should be standard electioneering weapon this year,it strikes right at the heart of Labours evil and not so sublime intentions. It is both factual and simple in its delivery, in other words people will understand it.

#38 - Aaron said:
2007-11-11 15:15 - (Reply)

This bill concerns me Unless one places ones self into the public arena with a well thought out script a plan if you like, the opera cannot begin! I have spoken with several people in recent days whom have no idea that the Electoral Finance Bill exist. Family members whom make up some of these people now think I am a conspiracy theorist due to my detest of the EFB. The complete history of sordid events, which surround what I believe is Labours obtrusive, demanding well-orchestrated plan for destruction of a so-called democracy, needs to be more widely exposed to the un-suspecting public. One would have thought television, billboards, public press and radio. Would be the medium to use when launching a full scale political attack on such a repugnant piece of legislation. I realise you, Mr Keys may be spending a great deal of time opposing labour; this is not visible to much of the public. Therefore many National supporters unfortunately have resorted to viewing yourself and National as weak! I do not say this with pleasure, as I detest what I believe is Helen's ludicrous plan, I am quite willing to fight for my rights as a New Zealander to maintain the bill of rights and still have a sausage sizzle without being hauled off to jail for releasing too many carbon emissions. The next generation are educated, if we can call it that, by use of such tools as computers and technology, also the odd illiterate persons waffling on about matters hardly worthy of a school curriculum. Although I have no children of my own I do have younger family members. Children and teens alike have rampant use of multimedia and predictive computer modelling, which from experience I can say is exactly that, predictive not factual. Due to this I believe we are living in a society where many are Auditory and visual learners who's education comes for a cathode ray tube or a Lcd screen. And of course speakers for those that actually listen. Unfortunately I have found that Many seem to think communism is another word for a computer peripheral. Or some type of living organism, though I suppose that latter is correct some may view Labour as a foriegn body. We are informed of a new improved education system? Including ethics. I don’t know whether to laugh or just slap her with a fish, I hope Labours track record is not to be held up as the schools example of ethical behaviour. Being of a younger generation I am 32, I have some friends in their mid twenties, as with many teens Shock follows when I find they too have no idea of what communist are, let alone the holocaust. I believe youth are being brainwashed by what is in my mind, Labour’s irresponsible thirst for control. the younger generation will be our future lawyers, politicians, educators and yes dictators. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. Famous Quote George Santayana From his book the life of reason My only hope John, is that you and your party are playing your chess pawns very carefully as I think anyone who doesn't now realise that politics has become a game is deluding themselves. To some, Helen may be a dodgy, dictator, though let's not forget a very intelligent one at that. My concern is that nothing can equate to experience. I just wait in hope that when I wake up on January the first that New Zealand has not become communist China!.

#39 - Lindsay Addie 2007-11-12 10:24 - (Reply)

John, I'm sure you've seen the front page editorial in the NZ Herald today about this issue. I hope you guys launch a full scale attack in Parliament tomorrow.

#40 - Tony said:
2007-11-12 10:53 - (Reply)

John - the Herald has given you a gilt-edged opportunity to both attack the agenda of the Labour-led government and its support parties, and to reassure the public that National is 100% opposed to the government's proposed restrictions on free speech. For those of us who so strongly want to see a change of government at the next election, please give this your best possible shot! Good luck in the House this week, and in what suddenly seems like a much friendlier media!!


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