] KEY NOTES: No.31 on Budget 2008 - Rt Hon John Key
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22 May 2008
KEY NOTES: No.31 on Budget 2008

JUST $16 A WEEK – THE BLOCK OF CHEESE BUDGET

Kiwis have waited nine long years for Michael Cullen to admit he’s wrong and deliver tax cuts. And after those nine long years he says he will give the average wage earner just $16 a week – the equivalent of a family-size block of cheese – a few weeks out from the election.

Then, once the election is over, the average wage earner will have to wait a couple of years to get just $6 more. It will be a very long time between toasted sandwiches.

No finance minister in New Zealand history has had the opportunity to cut taxes like Michael Cullen. Yet after more than 3,000 days in office, he says he will finally deliver – just days from an election. New Zealanders will see this as the desperate and cynical move it is.

Labour has squandered the golden economic weather of the past nine years, and failed to future-proof the economy. Their Budget is all about survival, not a sense of real priorities about New Zealand’s future direction.

Tax cuts are a top priority for National. They are an essential part of our five-point plan for the economy to make New Zealand a wealthier, more successful country. This plan includes:

- An ongoing programme of personal tax cuts. We will put the right incentives in place to encourage people to work and save and get ahead under their own steam. Boosting after-tax wages will help stem the flow of Kiwis overseas. It will help New Zealand keep the skilled workers we need to grow our economy and improve our public services.

- Bringing discipline to government spending. The government should be just as careful with your tax dollars as your household is with the weekly budget. National will direct spending away from low-quality programmes that push up inflation, towards frontline services like doctors, nurses, teachers, and police.

- Tackling bureaucracy and red tape. We will cap the number of bureaucrats in the core public service, and we will reform the Resource Management Act and the Building Act. We want to cut the high compliance costs that bog down everything from growing a business to building a deck.

- An unwavering focus on lifting education standards. We will introduce National Education Standards in primary and intermediate schools to improve literacy and numeracy. We will boost trades in schools and encourage teenagers to get the skills they need to make the most of themselves.

- Boosting infrastructure to help this country grow. We have a $1.5 billion plan to bring ultra-fast broadband to businesses, schools, hospitals, and homes. And we will work with the private sector to substantially boost investment in roads, electricity, and water.

Our plan for the economy is focused on getting New Zealand onto a much stronger path of economic growth and opportunity, and building a wealthier future for all New Zealanders.

GETTING EMISSIONS TRADING RIGHT

In a speech http://johnkey.co.nz/index.php?/archives/383-SPEECH-Lower-North-Island-Regional-Conference.html I gave to the National Party’s Lower North Island Regional Conference on Sunday, I called for a delay in the emissions trading legislation currently going through Parliament.

As a responsible international citizen, New Zealand must do its best to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. A well-designed, carefully-balanced Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS) is the best tool available for efficiently reducing emissions across the economy. But Labour has been racing towards a political deadline - the 2008 election – to set up the ETS and it has been prepared to cut corners to get there.

We are not prepared to cut those corners – not when the financial security of Kiwis is at risk, and not when getting the ETS wrong means exporting jobs, ratcheting up inflation, and viciously squeezing household budgets.

National believes that the current rushed timetable for the design of the ETS and the select committee process is reckless, given the importance of the issue. That’s why we will not support the bill going to a second reading until we are satisfied that it meets six key principles:

1. The ETS must strike a balance between New Zealand's environmental and economic interests. It should not attempt to make New Zealand a world leader on climate change. Kiwis simply can't afford to pay the price for that particular experiment.

2. It should be fiscally neutral rather than providing billions of dollars in windfall gains to the government accounts at the expense of businesses and consumers. National does not think it's responsible for government to use green initiatives to pad the Crown’s coffers while thinning out Kiwis' wallets.

3. It should be as closely aligned as possible with the planned Australian ETS, with common compliance regimes and tradability. In my second speech as National Party Leader, I called for close co-operation with our biggest trading partner on this issue, and I continue to call for it. Given the Australian timetable for developing an ETS, I believe it's still possible.

4. The ETS should encourage the use of technologies that improve efficiency and reduce emissions intensity, rather than encourage an exodus of industries and their skilled staff to other countries.

5. It needs to recognise the importance of small and medium enterprise to New Zealand and not discriminate against them in allocating emissions permits.

6. It should have the flexibility to respond to progress in international negotiations rather than setting a rigid schedule. This way, industry obligations can be kept in line with those of foreign competitors.

National does not expect to be the sole judge of whether the revised bill meets these principles. We believe that the views of New Zealanders must be heard and responded to.

For that reason, significant amendments to the bill should be tabled in Parliament, referred to the select committee alongside the bill, and subject to public submissions. 

This will most likely mean carrying the legislation into the next Parliament. I believe that's a small price to pay for ensuring New Zealand gets the best ETS possible.

John Key MP
Leader of the National Party


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#1 - Campion 2008-05-22 19:19 - (Reply)

Generally I agree with much of your comments. However on a personal note. are you purposely ommitting comment on the Seniors? Building for the future is one thing but recognising the contribution of probably what 500000? over 65`s could go a long way towards increasing our enthusiasm for your tilt at the number one spot. regards Shirley Campion.

#1.1 - maurice betts 2008-05-22 19:41 - (Reply)

nice. just be sure that you go it right ! You will get no thanks for 'fessing up to an error in calculations latter. [ And be ready to form an MMP Govt ] Raise the tax threashholds a little more and add a little more to the retirement cheques for aged and you are there. Sorry , I will miss you New Plymouth visit - visiting a son who is doing better in NSW for the past 9 years.

#1.2 - Sally Perfect 2008-05-23 09:51 - (Reply)

What a load of croak the budget is. I have a family & a business & a rental property and still live well below the poverty line even with a family tax credit. For the fools who voted for Helen last time round - thanx for nothing! If she gets back in my family of four intelligent people who would contribute to this country, will be moving across the tasman and I never thought I'd say that!

#2 - Daid Reid 2008-05-22 19:33 - (Reply)

Cap the bureaucrats? Chop their head off. Get rid of the 30% the Fast Forger introduced. Only then you will get the paperwork down. Bring discipline back into schools? Don't make me laugh. No slapping, no firm language, no way of enforcing discipline. You say you WANT to cut compliance cost. You don't say you will. SAY IT. The ETS? It's a nonsense. There are 1.1 billion Chinese who had never heard of it - or New Zealand and most working people in the USA ask me which State NZ is in. A couple of decades ago some Liberals in the UK came up with a good idea - to help lots of people. It was going to cost an extra penny in tax. They orgaised an opinion pole and the great majority said they wouldn't mind paying an extra penny to help those people. The Liberals were nearly wiped out in the next election. The polling booth is private. Never forget it.

#3 - Eric Pickering said:
2008-05-22 19:52 - (Reply)

What do you intend to do about the disastrous state of society? The jails are overflowing and we have thousands of fatherless children who are unlikely to get a proper upbringing.The majority of males appearing in the youth court have no contact with their father.The short answer is that the politicians need to start promoting marriage and permanent relationships rather than paying uneducated teenage girls to have babies which end up fatherless Thanks, E. Pickering.

#3.1 - Ulrich Madsen 2008-05-22 20:43 - (Reply)

Mmm a lot of contributing factors here eric, Poverty, where are their fathers?? and of course our low wage economy..

#4 - Jim Stephen 2008-05-22 20:39 - (Reply)

What are your thoughts about the huge increase of bureaucrats since Labour took over and the possibility of them having huge payouts in contracts sign off by Labour, if under National they are made redundant. I can see that Labour are setting corrupt goals that will have the bureaurocracy asking for huge payouts if they are outed!!!!

#5 - Alex Wright 2008-05-22 21:01 - (Reply)

I like your Emmissions Trading Statement. I think you should now follow with a policy on enlarging the national fiscal cake. This is the only way NZ living standards can be raised and perhaps catch up with Australia. I am biased , but our rural sector is one of our few natural assets.I believe investment by Govt. say in irrigation can kickstart our economy, allowing sustainable prosperity beyond tax cuts. The capital required can come from the Cullen fund.What better place to invest some of this money than in food production which can pay an interest return while the capital remains intact for the future - no-one can take away an irrigation scheme. To continue to cut and rearrange our existing fiscal cake will sell us short. We need to develop our natural resources with a combination of Govt. input in larger projects with private investment in production. This type of vision can win this election. A G Wright, farmer R D 12 Rakaia

#6 - Peter Norton 2008-05-22 21:05 - (Reply)

I watched your televised reply to the Budget with interest. I would like to congratulate you on your eloquent, good - natured response and - more importantly - National's broad policy outline once it becomes government in a few short months. I look forward to the detail of this policy closer to the election.

#7 - David Rawkins 2008-05-22 21:10 - (Reply)

In my view, the defining issue for this election will be whether you proceed with yor stated intention to give the citizens of this Country the right to determine the voting system that is used to elect our future Governments in the future. I am in favour of proportional representation but feel disempowered by the current MMP system where members of Government are elected without any mandate from the voters. The current MMP system leads inevitably to the politics of compromise, which does not give this country either strong governance or its rightful place on the world stage. I repeat that I feel that this will be the defining issue in the forthcoming election.

#8 - Ron 2008-05-22 21:21 - (Reply)

Kyoto and the ETS is a load of bollocks - you know it, I know it. Have the courage to say so and the election's yours. It's only the green idiots and a few other gullible twits who believe in GW - and Clark has to buy their votes.

#8.1 - Terry Nicolle 2008-05-24 02:02 - (Reply)

Cullens a joke, Clarks a joke....wake up Kiwis you are becoming like those 5 million S.Africans who believe things will improve. We all know that ETS is more than a load of dairy manure.....we also know that KYOTO is gone, dead and buried (except for those idiots who try and govern us)....John Key lets see if you have the two scratchy things most men have.....be a man,speak up/out about the pathetic policies implemented over the last 8 years by Labour....the ridiculous parenting laws introduced....Kiwis need someone to look up to.....someone who can lead us to believe that NZ has a future that does not include boys racers and doughnuts.....you are leading the polls by mega points so start acting like a winner..... throw away all those politically correct mannerisms and speeches.... lets see the real John Key and Im quite sure you won't need any other party to govern.

#9 - K.Sturgeon 2008-05-22 21:22 - (Reply)

This is the best of the issued newsletters so far, in my opinion. It is sharpening the focus to issues which will persuede the floating voters...get it out there!

#10 - Ron Durham 2008-05-22 21:23 - (Reply)

re para #1 - ("Just $16 per week - The Block of Cheese Budget"). It's even worse for pensioners. Current (annual reviewed) increase in National Super, for a married spouse, is only $13 per fortnight; less than $1 per day. (Enough for a mouse's cheese ration?). re "Emissions Trading". I'll begin to believe in this regime as soon as the BIG polluters (China, India, Russia, USA, Brazil, Australia, .......) lead the way. How can little NZ, alone, "save the planet"?

#11 - Glyn A. 2008-05-22 21:30 - (Reply)

I think John Key, Hon. Bill English and the National party are in a good headspace with the right inititives. *smile* Encouraging New Zealand's citizens to do good for themselves and creating worthwhile opportunites with the right incentives will certainly improve my friends and aquaintances morale on how they veiw and respect our government! And thats what is the great thing about National. Would you like to have a mediocre handout, our be out there with money in your back pocket and enjoying what we like to do! As for #3 Mr Pickering, excellent point. If we all start getting along, stop being paranoid with the Neighbours and given the right direction from our Leaders, I would hope the rest would fall into place, and more Males would act respectfully and responsibly. Ask yourself what would happen if we all grew two years wiser overnight and everyone acted their age. How may we be encouraged to act upon our country's troubles?

#12 - Michael 2008-05-22 21:42 - (Reply)

As _Tackling bureaucracy_ means canning ACC then I'm against it. As a small business man I love ACC because they take zero time or effort away from my core business and the alternative is to be thrown to the non-existent mercies of an insurance company oligarchy.

#13 - Peter Cleland said:
2008-05-22 21:43 - (Reply)

John, I am generally happy with all of the above, but just wanted to make a suggestion on the area of tax cuts. I am sure you have considered this idea already, but I would advocate government consider using the tax on the first 20% of income for new graduates to be used to reduce their individual student loan. This would motivate students to address their loan repayments early in their working career and further motivate them to stay and contribute to the New Zealand economy instead of Australia's. Perhaps a requirement for a matching contribution to be eligible may also be considered. Peter

#14 - David H 2008-05-22 22:10 - (Reply)

Great foundation John for a healthier NZ. I am not sure if this is the right place to put these comments as I have not been involved in anything like this before.Very glad for the sake of small to medium business that a rethink of ETS is being undertaken as I believe that they cannot afford this added unknown cost to them. I do believe your strength personally at a public media level comes out when you explain to us mere mortals in simple language how things work or are not working in the big picture of finance and economics etc. Think it would be beneficial to continue this when you are PM so that we feel part of your plan for NZ. I feel that the media gets at you a little when they try to get you to give your personal opinions about things you wisely dont want to comment on and think you need to get a stronger response of some sort. Maybe say that you are honoured that they want it but are aware that they only want to use it for purposes of entanglement. Another matter related to rebates/interest free loans on solar heating as this was part of your mission. Are you aware that there has been I am led to believe only 8 successful recievers of assisstance who have managed to complete the current 24 page application with its 60 odd page instruction book to aid you in applying. Way too hard.

#15 - Wally O'Donnell 2008-05-23 05:47 - (Reply)

I have recieved an EMail I would like to forward to you, John-- is your mailing address available? ( It contains some info that could do with sending on to your mail list and would make a big impact on this country and thinking voters. ) Regards. Wally O'D.

#16 - Kevin Hearle 2008-05-23 06:05 - (Reply)

John Key states that the "ETS is the best tool available for efficiently reducing emissions across the economy" Best compared to what? It seems to me that we have yet to debate any alternative, and there are some that might be better for our environment and cost less in the long term. ETS is bound up with our commitment to Kyoto. Kyoto is dead as it is not all encompassing countrywise. As we trade away our credits and NZ companies are already selling credits eg our windfarm credits to the Japanese allowing them to polute. Tell me how that helps New Zealand or benefits CO.2 reduction worldwide, it is merely a transfer price for pollution from one area to another. If our net deficit is $1B then it would be better to spend that amount in NZ not give it to the Russians or Chinese to allow them to polute, are we so niave as to think that they will spend that money on reducing pollution, how much will end up with the Russian Mafia or the corupt regimes in China, Anyone who has done business in these countries will tell you how corupt the regimes are at all levels. Better to have an incountry system to lead the world not a system that has as a basic tenant the ability for both parties to a ETS to falsify the documentation (it is in the interests of the seller to hype the value of what he has to sell and the buyer to hype the value of what he his buying, a recipe for fraud!)

#17 - Wal Gordon 2008-05-23 06:30 - (Reply)

It seems to me none of the Parties are tackling the core problems of the country. All seem to be talking about issues that are the trend at the moment but no-one is addressing the grass roots issues such as the trade shortage, the manner in which government departments fleece us such as the slight change in PAYE deductions (only on average 80cents per week per person employed) but thats about $98 Million dollars a year out of the local enonomy, what about the state of our education system not only schools but Polytechs for trades (students/apprentices are only getting partially trained). This is to name only a few. Talk is cheap. What we need is a government that will address the grass root issues and get some pride back into the country. When was the last time you asked a Joe Blow working class Kiwi if they were happy about the direction of their profession and the skill levels. If you haven't then come talk to me and I'll put you in the picture. There are a lot of hard workers out there who are dispondent and to get their votes you need to talk to them. Find out what we need before tellings us what you can do.

#18 - John Davison 2008-05-23 07:21 - (Reply)

While your about it you can also stop throwing billions of our dollars into the bottomless pit called maoridom. The country should be"All for one and one for all", not some racist state (I'm white and do not like being discriminated against). You can also scrap MMP and give the judge who jails paint vandals a big pay rise.

#19 - Raewyn Gleeson 2008-05-23 08:28 - (Reply)

I think Michael Cullens budgetc was a bit mean. Hiopefully you will be able to do better for the working bloke, Reduce taxes by a lot more.

#20 - C. J. Wecke 2008-05-23 10:24 - (Reply)

GLOBAL WARMING is not even a fact. Europe has had the coldest summer and the Gulfstream is COOLING. This whole Emmissions Trading Scheme is a self serving Industry boosted by the media lobbyists. Let us rather listen to the independent scientists who ALL agree that our CO2 emmissions have nothing to do with "global warming" as our climate is mainly influenced by the activities of the sun. CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME should be our motto.

#21 - Elaine Cradock 2008-05-23 11:05 - (Reply)

Hi John Spot on with the tax cuts. Us kiwis are hard workers and deserve a tax cut. Yes, cut the beaurocricty, too many managers in our hospitals. Yes, have a referendum on MMP. It is a crazy system. Why should minor partied hold the country to ransom for days after the election while we wait for a government to be formed. Hope National can get enough votes to govern alone. No one has anything to say about the rising price of fuel. What will you do about that John. Pressure should be put on the oil companies to hold out on increases until the oil in the barrel has actually reached the pumps.

#22 - David 2008-05-23 11:36 - (Reply)

All i hear about from both parties is tax cuts..tax cuts are soon swallowed up by the increasing cost of basic food items and fuel. Remove GST from petrol ..just on 91 if You wish and remove GST from basic food items, milk, bread, flour, cheese. It shouldnt be too difficult. Doing that will be far more beneficial than tax cuts.

#23 - Bronwyn 2008-05-23 12:18 - (Reply)

Good comments John. As a business owner and President for our local Chamber of Commerce I fully support your lead in reducing bureaucracy - we are swamped with it and how are the outputs and outcomes measured? Building a healthy business economy results in a healthy national economy, then people will be rewarded with closer wage parity to our neighbours in Australia. At the moment that cant happen, SME's are suffering as much as anyone with a slowing down of the economy, rising cost of fuel and compliance. Am passionate about seeing trade skills introduced at school level but work needs to be done to get support by the Headmasters and School Guidance Counsellors to sell trade skills to students as a real career path. Keep up the good work.

#23.1 - Richard Yacht 2008-05-27 11:34 - (Reply)

Do people not understand that putting more money into peoples pockets does nothing but raise inflationary pressure on the economy. If people want lower interest rates, stable prices, and businesses want managable wage increases then putting billons back into the economy through tax cuts will not achieve these outcomes; infact it will do just the opposite drive up prices, and shore up interest rates along with increased wage pressure. God help us if John borrows money to provide tax relief to grow the economy faster, we are already streched in terms of capasity with labour at an all time low and wage inflation spiralling. Economic common sense please.

#24 - Rose Gravatt 2008-05-23 14:38 - (Reply)

Noticed that Australia had stopped taxing interest on savings- This is a great way to help our older populace as many put lump sums away in investment to help with health issues or inheritence for future. A no tax on this money would be welcome and isn't it just double dipping anyway to tax interest on our hard earned savings. Something National could think about John- it might even encourage saving.

#25 - Peter Macdonald 2008-05-23 15:44 - (Reply)

Good and so was John on morning report BUT he needs to be more assertive - he allowed Shaun Plunkett to talk over him. It is perfectly reasonable/correct for policy not to be released until the election campaign - Plunkett asked that same qu re tax policy over and over - "what is your policy??" - why not say to him,"I have answered that question'move on!"

#25.1 - Ross Calverley 2008-05-23 21:46 - (Reply)

The National Programme Morning Report this morning was biased. Asking two Labour-leaning supporters what the budget did to them, then implying that John had no policy on tax cuts (even though that is total c***).

#26 - Alison 2008-05-23 17:12 - (Reply)

Michael Cullen's tax cut of 16$ is a joke. An obvious bribe for an election several weeks later. We are a family of four and my husband pays huge taxes and we are not eligible for any working for families tax credits. A decent tax cut would be of great benefit. 2 Teenage boys, uni fee etc. I would like to see NZ withdraw from the Kyoto Protocol completely. I don't think a country with a small economy such as ours can afford to be leading the way when other countries sich as Australia, UK, Canada and the US have not signed the Kyoto protocol. Why should we be the first when it will be the tax payers who end up footing the bill. Go John Key ( our next Prime Minister )!

#27 - Rowland Church 2008-05-23 23:59 - (Reply)

Go John. We are sick of this backward Social Govt that tries to take over and then hand out crumbs to peasants. We want leadership, incentives and encouragement to get up and do it ourselves. That's the way ahead,not hang around waiting for Govt. handouts!! The secret to solving lack of money is to earn more! Tell everyone to get stuck in,John Luv Rowland

#28 - Steve 2008-05-24 07:29 - (Reply)

Good stuff John. I like your 5 point plan, but you need to reinforce it more in the media. Now I'm hearing a media beat-up about you switching away from tax cuts as a priority, perhaps because not enough emphasis was put on your 5 point plan from the beginning.

#29 - Jayne Cummins 2008-05-24 08:23 - (Reply)

From what I am reading and hearing this emissions tax is ludicrous and not all 'so called experts' agree that global warming is taking place at all; the weather is going through a different cycle as it has all through BUT NZ cannot afford to do what Labour has committed us to do and what we do achieve will be totally insignificant anyway. I am concerned at all the spending Michael Cullen has done in this budget, if the economy is in the downturn, as it seems, then this will not help stem the flow and will put National in a bad situation to go into office. Also I am concerned at the doctor situation, there is no incentive for our young docs to stay in NZ. Could they be given free training as long as they agree to stay in NZ for 10 years after graduating, hopefully by that time they would be settled and want to stay anyway. Jayne

#30 - dad4justice said:
2008-05-24 12:32 - (Reply)

“Bringing discipline to government spending - Tackling bureaucracy and red tape” = excellent common sense idea needed for our Nation. Hopefully this will provide more money to front-line services which all very well and good, however it’s pointless unless the PC feminist agenda is not eradicated at the same time. CYFS and police are just a couple of politicized government agencies at the coalface of family destruction. They are unwilling to look at the triggers of family breakdown and fatherlessness even though the tragic consequences for the kiwi society are ever so obvious. Our youth need role models, healthy self esteem levels and the correct boundaries, not cops and ankle bracelets. Is it the lack of parental responsibility, or the nanny state mentality that is at fault here, or both? I hope National do bring back the shared parenting concept, as Labour’s rejection reeks of gender discrimination and a total lack of balance.

#31 - Brian White 2008-05-25 10:41 - (Reply)

We need to invest in winners ( people / businesses ) not losers ( they are obvious ) as Labour tends to. A primary focus for policy must be on not exporting our stars ( educated energetic people ) and importing other peoples rejects. The number of positive contibutors as a percentage of the population is getting to small. Finally, there are no rewards for being a good citizen ( rearing your kids properly, staying out of trouble, working hard and paying heaps of tax). How about if you reach age ( say ) 50 and meet certain criteria you become eligible for a 5% tax cut and on reaching retirement age you are eligible for 5% extra pension. Stick AND carrot. I ( for one ) do not feel appreciated. Think about it John, I mean seriously think about it. Cheers.

#32 - Liam Black 2008-05-25 17:27 - (Reply)

Global warming is a scam. It started with a reasonable concern, got whipped up by the media and the greens. Now governments are using it as an excuse to tax and control. The earth is actually cooling but that is not being reported. If all countries achieve their Kyoto objectives the world will be 0.15 degrees C cooler. That is what the millions we are going to spend on global warming is going to buy us. Not very cost effective. The effect of ETS is going to be catastrophic for the NZ economy. Europe is still increasing carbon output by 7% annually. Where are those credits going to come from? Too much opportunity for fraud and creative accounting. So John my suggestion is that a commission of enquiry needs to be set up with objective people and really look at the issues involved. If we are to have a carbon tax of any sort the money should stay in this country.

#33 - Vicki Mills 2008-05-27 13:58 - (Reply)

With regard to personal tax cuts in this country... New Zealanders no longer retire at the age of 65 and get the gold watch and mow the lawns on Sundays. A great deal of people continue working because they want to or need to as a matter of survival. However, what about New Zealanders over 65 still earning and earning medium / higher salaries. Should they still be paying tax at the top rate to support others when they themselves don't have long left in the workforce. Surely they've paid enough taxes. I'd like to see something done about that aspect.

#33.1 - David Ryan 2008-05-29 21:24 - (Reply)

Could not agree more. Paid enough by now. Can National also ban the term "tax cuts" and use the term "tax refunds" instead because in reality that's what it has to be. Many people have paid more than their fair share for far too long. Moreover our taxes are paying people huge salaries to civil servants to apply regulations to those that actually generate the wealth that meets the salaries of those who obstruct those whose ideas earn the income to pay the taxes.........!! When the taxpayers become "customers" and the bludgers and overstayed parkers become "clients" the hell in the handbasket looms greatly. As a matter of urgency will the NP please also formally award Michael Cullen a top-hat with a 10/6 tucked into the hat band. That's about what his economic policy is worth and the setting about right.

#33.1.1 - Terry Nicolle 2008-06-03 01:05 - (Reply)

Don't bother with a top hat........a beenie is all he's worth..... and 10 and 6 should be his lifetime pension.

#33.2 - Rowland Church 2008-06-03 21:59 - (Reply)

Yes ,I agree with your suggestion. I, for one ,have worked all my life and raised four children into the workforce and are still helping them out. I have a medium income as am still working and to which Govt super is added and all is taxed at the highest rate making the super futile and my work more beneificial although I have all sorts of aches and pains as my body is getting older. I don't think we should be taxed to the hilt if we can carry on as our strength and health permits. Rowland

#34 - lena 2008-05-27 14:27 - (Reply)

how can nzers make well informed judgements,of choices beyond reasonable doubts? come judgment day, ie election day? this being the lifesupport of every government, when applying fair & just rules within the governing of nzs economy, (which are subject to abuse), if crucial calculations, regarding the present budget for nzs now or near future financial liabilities, have not been addressed publicly with respect to every citizen & tax-payers rights, to enable an informed judgement in choices of governing,regarding their financial obligations to the budget of nz economy? If government policies hindered by technicalities, in commercial & confidential negotiations,that influence components of risks,affecting large areas of financial stability for the struggling majority, that inevitably denys all citizens rights to be publicly informed, nz future sadly spells, suffering in successions,ignorance upon arrogance,injustice over justice, & fiscality over frugality, for this once was well known "land of the plenty" which is fast becoming the "land of the empty". I having migrated permanently as a nz born citizen, to australia 5 yrs ago, & now in pursuit of australian citizenship, with a passion,since nzs current lack of merit towards trustworthy leadership, is a sad but sure sign,that indicates values of immoral high maintainence, over book balancing worthy causes, towards the common welfare of all people in nz, in comparison to australias commitments, to recompensate more for the needs in majority,for those concieved,but not condemned to the lower classes of life & living. im proud to become a kwozi!

#35 - Nigel Lynn said:
2008-05-27 15:01 - (Reply)

I wish the bureaucracy employment surplus be given the correct title; it's purly to consoliatate a grateful well paid bunch to vote for Helen and her cronnies. And quite a large bunch it is, did I read that nine thousand civil servants are working for the Department of Health, when we only have about five major hospitals still in existence. There is skant regard to expenditure in the effort to save their own political skins, or dare I say... conscience. What we needed Cullen to say to us in his budget speech were the awful amounts of money that have been squandered over the years and the resultant failure which is never questioned... as if it was a right. We need a complete clean up of the bureaucrats and if they say they are worth these enormous amounts they get paid, because it's what the international work market would award them, then let them go to another country that's not averse to commonsense and see how the cycle of failure quickly follows them. I have never voted National before I'm fifty seven and there is only one concern I have and please tell me I am wrong... it is called the round table and as we know that didn't work, but good luck we need commonsense and I will be voting for your party.


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