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26 August 2009
Delivering For Young New Zealanders

Let me begin by thanking all those who have come here today to hear this address.

It’s great to be with a group of people who share a passion that means so much to me. 

That passion is the potential of New Zealand’s young people.

As youth workers, as youth justice experts, as community leaders, you devote much of your energy to young Kiwis, and in doing so you make an important contribution to our country.

After all, it is our young people who, more than any other group, will determine the future shape and prosperity of New Zealand. 

When our young people flourish, we all benefit. 

 
Video opens with a high-level overview summary by John Key, moves on to actual speech.

For it is their efforts that will boost the economy of tomorrow and, in time, pay for the public services we rely on. 

For New Zealand to become more prosperous, for our living standards to rise, for there to be more and better paid jobs, we need the next generation to be more capable, more skilled, and more ambitious than the generation before. 

Judging by most of the young people I meet, New Zealand’s future looks bright.  

As I travel around the country, visiting schools, workplaces, marae, I am constantly impressed by the enthusiasm and energy displayed by our youth.  They are ambitious for themselves and they make me optimistic for New Zealand.

As Prime Minister I am determined to ensure our young have the opportunities they need to deliver on this potential and ambition. 

I want them to have the skills and experiences they need to succeed, to acquire productive jobs and good living standards for them and their families, here in New Zealand.

The Government’s policy priorities reflect this aspiration and today I will make a series of announcements that reflect that. 

The first set of policies is about providing young people from deprived communities with activity programmes in their school holidays.  

The second is about equipping our youth justice system with a better set of tools for dealing with young offenders.

I will detail these exciting policies in just a moment. 

But it’s important that you don’t consider these policies in isolation. 

They need to be seen in the context of the Government’s broader policy agenda for improving the lives of young, and indeed all, New Zealanders.

Because you know and I know, that doing better for our young people means doing better across a range of fronts. 

It starts with valuing families. 

That means respecting the vital role of parents, and doing all that we can to support the financial security of families.

The Government’s task is to make decisions – day by day and policy by policy – that will strengthen the economy so that it can provide Mums and Dads with the jobs they need, the incomes they deserve, and the financial security they want for their families.

The tough times of late show just how important this is. 

When the economy falters, it is everyday Kiwis who pay the price.  

The opposite is also true.

When the economy rallies, it is everyday Kiwis and their children who benefit.

The Government is working hard to strengthen our economy. 

From better infrastructure, to regulatory reform through to a better tax system, we’re making and will continue to make, the changes that are needed to make New Zealand’s economic engine run faster.

Economic policy is very important to me. 

Not because I think wealth necessarily brings happiness, but because I know that a lack of work and a lack of money reduce people’s security and choices. 

I simply want better for New Zealanders. 

The Government recognises that providing opportunities for young people is also about supporting families to support their children, whether through Working for Families, access to early childhood education or quality healthcare.   

I have been proud of this Government’s efforts to preserve these entitlements and improve these services, despite the magnitude of the recession. 

We are focusing on reducing bureaucracy, pushing resources to the frontline and getting better value for every taxpayer dollar. 

By doing these things we will be able to continue to preserve families’ entitlements and services into the future. 

We know that supporting our young people is also about valuing education.  

I view education as a liberator. 

It is the single most important rung on the ladder of opportunity. 

By and large, New Zealand has an education system to be proud of. 

But too many young people slip through the cracks and leave school without the skills and qualifications they need to succeed.

That’s what is motivating our National Standards policy. 

National Standards are designed to ensure primary school children are on track towards getting the basic literacy and numeracy skills they need to succeed.   

We have consulted with parents and teachers on a set of National Standards that will describe the basic literacy and numeracy skills every child should be expected to have at each year of their primary education. 

The final standards will be published in October.

From next year, we will require all year 1-8 schools to report to parents in plain English about how their children are doing compared to these National Standards. 

If children aren’t reaching the standards we will require schools to tell Mums and Dads so they can work with their schools to do something about it.

We’re also working with our schools and education providers to give them more flexibility to educate kids who may not do so well in a traditional academic environment.   

We know that some kids will get more from pulling an engine apart than studying Macbeth. 

So our Trades in Schools programme and Youth Guarantee are about ensuring that teenagers have more choices, are better engaged in education and better prepared for the workforce.

Finally, the Government knows that supporting our young people is about ensuring that, even in the toughest economic times, when they leave school they have access to opportunities for work, training, or further education. 

That’s why I was pleased to announce our $152 million “Youth Opportunities” package at the beginning of the month.

It provides for up to 16,900 opportunities for young people aged 16-to-24, who may be affected by increasing levels of unemployment over the next 18 months.

There is a range of initiatives from increased places in Limited Service Volunteers, more provision of polytechnic and wananga training through to government funded schemes designed to encourage businesses and communities to offer jobs to young people. 

We’ve been impressed by the take-up of the package so far, with almost 600 jobs being offered to young people as a result of the “Job Ops” policy. 

But we’re keen to see even more take-up.

You can all help with that. 

Of particular interest to those in this room may be the ‘Community Max’ policy. 

Community Max is designed to get young people working on worthwhile projects in their communities.   

If you come to us with a community project that fits the criteria, we will provide funding for the wages of youth workers for up to 30 hours a week at the minimum wage, a supervisor for every four young workers, as well as a training payment for every worker. 

It’s a great opportunity and one we’re keen to see being rolled out up and down New Zealand. 

So have a think about how you or your organisation might get involved. 

But the reason I’m here today is to announce two new packages aimed at young people under the age of 18.

BREAK-AWAY PACKAGE FOR SCHOOL HOLIDAYS

The first policy is a Break-Away Package costing $12.1 million over four years which is designed to increase opportunities for young people in school holidays.

This package will give children from deprived communities a break away in meaningful activities during the school holidays.

It will give foster caregivers a break away from their responsibilities.

And it will give selected young people a break away in fun and challenging activities with high-profile role models as a reward for turning their lives around.

Many New Zealand families already choose to get their kids involved in holiday activity programmes.  

They might, for example, send their kids to a rugby training programme for a week, on a surf lifesaving course, a kapa haka programme or a karate workshop. 

Kiwis like these programmes, not only because they give kids somewhere to be during the day while Mum and Dad might be at work, but also because they give kids a new range of experiences quite unlike those they get from school. 

Young people on a school holiday programme get the opportunity to develop new skills, to face some challenges, and to meet new young people in a new environment. 

Opportunities like this can be invaluable. 

But sadly the young people who may be most likely to miss out on these opportunities are also the ones who might gain the most from them.

I’m talking about young people in some of New Zealand’s lower socio-economic communities, where Mum and Dad might not be able to afford the programme fees or the programmes might not be on offer at all.

Instead of going on an athletics camp the kids from some of New Zealand’s poorest families might find themselves at a loose end in the school holidays with very little to do. 

I want to make sure that more families have the chance to get their children involved in meaningful activities in the school holidays.  

I also want to boost the efforts of the many great community providers who work with young people. 

This includes providers with a physical activity or sport focus such as the YMCA and families centres like Mangere East.

Holiday Activity Programmes

So today I am announcing that, starting this summer school holidays, the Government will roll out 15,000 one-week holiday activity programme places for young people aged 11-17.

This will increase to 30,000 places a year from next year onwards.

I want to see a diverse range of programmes, from drama to outdoor-adventure to organised sport. 

The key requirements will be that the programmes are safe, include physical activities and provide positive experiences.

The needs of different age groups will also have to be catered for. 

These programmes will geographically target young people from deprived communities and families under stress. 

Starting this summer, high needs areas in Auckland will be targeted. 

Over time, we will roll these funded school-holiday programmes out to other parts of New Zealand. 

Residential Respite Camps

Today I am also announcing 500 residential holiday respite camp places for children and young people who are being cared for by foster parents and extended whanau.

The camps will provide full residential care, and structured recreational programmes for children and young people in the age ranges of 5 to 7 years and 8 to 12 years.

The programmes will give foster caregivers a break, and they will give young people a positive experience in the school holidays. 

There will be 250 places from December this year, rising to 500 from next year. Initially we will focus on the younger aged group.

The Te Puna Whairoa Children’s Health Camps will be the first provider of these programmes. 

The Prime Minister’s Youth Programme

Finally, I am pleased to announce a highly-targeted new Prime Minister’s Youth Programme for 100 selected kids. 

This new programme will, each year, reward and foster achievement for young people aged 14 to 17 who have overcome adversity and made positive changes in their lives. 

This programme will be aimed at kids who have been recognised by community leaders as having done what it takes to really turn their lives around.  

They might for example be identified by a teacher, a local police officer, or a youth worker. 

I want the programmes to be a real reward for young people who’ve made mistakes but have picked themselves up and chosen to play by the rules and make the most of themselves.   

Over the course of the week-long programme, these young people will experience a mixture of fun and challenging activities that will open up future opportunities for them. 

What will make the programme unique is that, as part of the reward, a number of high-profile New Zealanders have offered to lend a hand and help raise the sights of these young people.

These include several high profile rugby stars – either All Blacks or super rugby players - actor Oscar Kightley, ex-All Black Norm Hewitt, and netball guru Raewyn Henry. 

I want the young people involved in the Prime Minister’s Youth Programme to be given the opportunity to spend time with these icons and learn from their experiences.

I’m sure that other high-profile New Zealanders will be prepared to invest their time in the young people on the programme and I look forward to their contribution.

The camps will be run by experienced providers, but the involvement of these icons will make them really special. 

We are expecting the programme to kick off in January 2010. 

FRESH START PACKAGE FOR YOUNG OFFENDERS

The second set of policies I’m announcing today is aimed at a much smaller, but often higher-profile group of young people – youth offenders.

Our extensive Fresh Start package of youth justice policies is aimed at those who have veered off the rails and who have found themselves in trouble with the police and the youth justice system. 

These range from Community Youth Development Programmes for at-risk youth who are yet to come before the courts, right through to military-style activity camp programmes for the worst youth offenders.

There are not many young people in this position.

Perhaps a few thousand at the most. 

But it is vital that we offer them an effective range of opportunities – based on the severity of their offending – to turn their lives around and give them a fresh start. 

If we don’t, not only are these young people likely to fall far short of their potential but, most significantly, they may pose a serious threat to the future safety of our communities.

The earlier we get these kids out of the crime cycle the less havoc they can wreak.

To do this, the youth justice system needs a greater range of tools than it currently has.

That’s what this Government has set about providing.   

We want to ensure that judges, when faced with a youth offender, will be able to tailor a package of measures that they believe will address that young person’s criminal behaviour and help them turn their life around.

I have previously announced our plans for bolstering the Youth Court with a new and strengthened range of orders, including longer sentences and military-style activity camps.  

Today I am going to announce more of the funding and implementation details of these policies and some new initiatives.

The legislation required to make the key changes needed is currently before a Select Committee.

We have been listening to the submitters who have come forward to comment on that Bill. 

The responses have helped inform today’s announcement. 

The feedback we have heard from some submitters has been about the great youth programmes that are working well but are currently under-funded by the criminal justice system. 
 
Today I am pleased to announce the Government’s plans for a broad range of these kinds of interventions, which we will fund with $72.4 million over four years.

New Community Youth Programmes

The first new set of interventions will be targeted at lower-level youth offenders, whose offending is yet to land them in court.

We want to get to these young people early and steer them away from more serious offending. 

There are already some great structured activity programmes out there that could help turn these kids’ lives around.  

These include the Police-led Youth Development Programmes and similar programmes run by community organisations.  

They are run by experts and include a mixture of activities that help young people to learn new skills and even develop new passions. 

Today I am announcing that the Government will fund up to 1000 places for young people at risk of offending to take part in Youth Development Programmes of this sort. This year 250 places will be available and this will increase to 1000 a year following that.

Young people will be referred to these programmes by the police, the courts, or other community leaders – for example school principals.

Funding for these programmes will total $9.8 million over the next four years. 

Mentoring, Parenting, and Drug & Alcohol Orders

The Government will also ensure that the Youth Court has new rehabilitation orders and access to a large number of funded places in programmes that tackle some of the root causes behind youth offending.

There are three things that everyone agrees can help rehabilitate a young offender. 

Working with parents to strengthen their role in the child’s life. 

Ensuring youth have access to ongoing mentoring from respected and well-qualified people. 

And helping them tackle their issues with alcohol and drug abuse. 

The Government wants to back what works.

We will put $9.4 million over four years into youth justice funding for programmes like these. 

This will create up to 300 places a year in mentoring programmes.

Up to 700 places a year in parenting programmes.

Up to 200 places in community-based drug and alcohol programmes. 

And up to 32 places in residential-based drug and alcohol programmes designed to help offenders with very serious addictions.

Court-Supervised Camps

We also want to ensure that youth offenders at the lower end of the scale can be directed into physically and mentally challenging activity programmes.

I want to see more of these kids, who may otherwise stick to old habits, getting a real chance to change themselves for the better. 

At the moment, hundreds of young offenders who come before the Youth Court are referred to a Family Group Conference.

If they successfully complete the plan agreed at the conference they can be discharged without being sentenced.
 
The Government wants to support these kids to help them turn their lives around at this early stage.

We will provide new Court-Supervised Camp Programmes to deliver more options for the Family Group Conferences and the Court.

An intensive adventure-camp experience could be the start that encourages a troubled teenager to get their life back together. 

I’m talking about programmes run by experts that take kids away from their normal environment and give them the rev-up they need.   

And that are then followed up with intensive mentoring so that the positive changes really stick.

The Government will provide $5.4 million in funding over four years to support up to 200 places in a new range of these Court Supervised Camp Programmes. 

These will include up to 10 days on an intensive adventure-camp experience as part of Court-ordered family conference plans.

Failure to compete these programmes will result in offenders being returned to Court and more serious sanctions being imposed.

Greater Youth Court Powers

I’m also keen to ensure that the Youth Court has the powers it needs to ensure that court orders are complied with, and that when offenders are released back into the community they can be closely monitored.

Today I am confirming that the Government has allocated funding to allow up to 30 high-risk youth offenders a year to be electronically monitored in the community while under a court-ordered Intensive Supervision order.

We have also allocated funding to expand the proven ‘Supported Bail Programme” which will provide intensive supervision and monitoring for up to 175 young offenders a year while they are on remand.

Innovation Fund

Finally, I’m announcing today an annual fund to encourage communities to come up with new and innovative solutions to youth offending.

Many of those responding to the Government’s proposals have said they have better ideas for helping youth offenders. 

This fund gives them the chance to prove it.

We will fund organisations with proven track-records to target up to 230 young people who are at risk of getting into a cycle of crime.  

We will provide $4.6 million over four years for this fund to encourage new ideas and new approaches. 

We expect, for example, that many providers will focus on new ways of dealing with Maori offenders, who are badly over-represented in the youth offending statistics.

Supervision with Activity Orders and Military-Style Activity Camps

I think the policies I have announced today will vastly improve the way our youth justice system deals with young offenders.

But I hasten to add that these programmes complement, not replace, the Government’s plans for military-style supervision with activity programmes and residential military-style activity camp programmes.

We are providing 50 additional places in supervision with activity programmes, and doubling the maximum duration to six months, followed by up to six months supervision.

We are also providing 40 places in residential military activity camp programmes for more serious young offenders.

These provide up to three months residential training, using army-type facilities or training methods, followed by up to nine months intensive support to meet each offender’s individual needs.

I know these programmes have come in for criticism from some quarters.

But I make no apologies for backing them. 

The current system for dealing with the more serious young offenders just isn’t working well enough. 

We have to be prepared to come at the problem differently and give new solutions a go. 

The military-style options I propose will provide serious young offenders with a structured environment and a complete package of support to address the causes of offending. 

Yes they’ll involve some marching exercises. 

Yes, they’ll involve military facilities. 

I support that. 

But they’ll also include long-term mentoring, drug and alcohol rehabilitation programmes, education, and an assisted move back into the community. 

Taken together they just might deal to some of the unexploded time-bombs currently sifting through the Youth Court. 

And that’s something I’m proud to back. 

All in all, the Government’s extensive range of initiatives in our Fresh Start Package for Youth Justice, together with our increased funding for interventions, will result in up to 3000 extra places in youth justice programmes each year.

These policies will go a long way towards dismantling some of New Zealand’s ticking time bombs.

They will turn more young people off a life of crime.

They will help make our communities safer.

And they will give more at-risk New Zealanders the opportunity for a fresh-start.

Conclusion

Ladies and Gentlemen, today’s announcements are about doing better for the next generation.

I want every young Kiwi to be able to find a way onto the path of success.

And I want our children to have great expectations for what they can achieve. 

We owe our young people the opportunities they need to deliver the very best of themselves. 

They owe us their very best efforts in return.

After all, the future success of our country, the future success of each of us, relies on unlocking the potential of a new generation. 

Just as the Government is working hard to ensure that potential is released, I know the people in this room are giving back to your communities.

I think together we can make a real difference to our young and to our country. 

So I thank you and I welcome you on board a great mission.


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#1 - John Coxon said:
2009-08-26 12:46 - (Reply)

John I like the tone and the positive approach to these policies. I believe a country needs to give its youth a helping hand. I commenced an apprenticeship in 1973, four years of guidance and support from older blokes, plus a volunteer stint in the military. It's not about saying the old ways are the best ways, it's about providing support to our youth at a time in their life when they are most vulnerable - this sets them up for life, whatever that may turn out to be. It instills in them a positive attitude. Please don't forget there are ordinary Kiwi's such as myself who are not celebrities or sporting hero's who would love to be involved in this program somehow, we also have a lot to offer.

#1.1 - Richard Clark said:
2009-08-30 10:28 - (Reply)

Mr Key, please, if you want to take care of children, if you want to see Aotearoa be the best it can be please stop the rot, stop the lies. This country is not safe for children and it is not the clean green 100% whatever that you claim. In fact on both issues it has not been this way for nearly half a century. Instead of talking up a single economic structure with our trans tasman neigbors I would implore you to look at our country first. In the Wairarapa we have a crises with policing and we have a crises with child abuse. We also have an environmental crises, our rivers are poisoned, our farmers are poluters, we plant exotic timbers when we could have created an extraordinary demand for our native timbers, if only successive governments, of all pursuasions, had paid attention. Aotearoa needs a fresh outlook on who we are and what we are as a society. Many of our iconic industries have died through short sighted vision and all Kiwis have paid for this. We don't need a Global economy, that is what got us into our mess, we need local identity and that will be our brand. Aotearoa. To be using the clean, green, 100% strategy we need to practice those aspects, that is integrity where our action matches our words. for 50 years or more successive governments have fiddled, have seemingly not learned from past mistakes and hung onto an outmoded social and environmental model. We are first and foremost a Pacific Island Nation. It's that simple. We are not European, we are no longer British. I believe our future lies in studying the west coast of America, both the positive and negative. We are not Australia. We have a uniqueness that needs to be understood, embraced and then built upon. It will not be easy. We need honest, transparent and intelligent leadership. It's that simple and that complex.

#2 - Kelly Anderson 2009-08-26 15:12 - (Reply)

Great initiatives for youth offending. Are you not overlooking a service already up and running which helps keep these kids off the streets and in education? That would be Alternative Education. Many of these students are the youth offenders or repeat offenders. Why not allocate funding to AE consortia so they can provide the students with a more holistic approach to meeting the needs of these kids. By creating more programmes and having more providers the funding pool gets spread so thin. Also it negates the benefits of one-stop-shops that AE tries to establish. There are so many services out there already most of the kids are over serviced. They go to one counsellor for drug abuse, another for anger management, another for abuse... AE has the young people and they are already engaged. 1800 students nationwide. Break down the silos between MOE and MSD and form a partnership so AE consortia can address all the needs of the students and not be boxed into education alone. And please can there be an announcement asap that states the AE contract will be renewed for 2010.

#3 - Leo I taillie 2009-08-28 19:41 - (Reply)

You're doing a great job BUT please don't burn yourself out. Your are on the go too much I think,please slow down a bit. Kindest regards and best wishes. Leo

#4 - Barry Brill 2009-08-28 20:23 - (Reply)

Fundamental to our inherited British system of justice is the concept of the "rule of law" as opposed to "rule by men".This means that, in common law countries, criminality must turn on the wording of the law itself (as interpreted by the judiciary) and not by police or other officials exercising discretions or picking who is to be prosecuted.

#5 - Andrew Atkin said:
2009-08-30 09:44 - (Reply)

Often kids appear poorly suited to academics not because they can't do them, or are not interested, but because they are not suited to the MoE's compulsory learnings systems that are being employed. Remember that teachers only know how kids learn *in response to* the methods they prescibe for them. They do not see or usually know how kids learn outside of this. My point is that we have to be careful not to get our "experts" out of perspective with respect to what they do/can know. The climate traditional teachers work in can only dictate a basically 'tunnel vision' relationship to a students development.

#6 - Andrew Atkin said:
2009-08-30 10:06 - (Reply)

Hi again, Following from my previous comment, can I make an example with myself? My English was always dodgy at school, until I reached my 4th form year and I said to myself: "I've got school certificate next year, so I better get on top of this English thing". I took my work home and for the first time in my education I actually bothered to improve my English from my own volition. As it happened I think I improved my English more in a total of about 10 hours at home, with the causal help of my brother and father, than in about 4 years at school - not exaggerating. (Er, though I know my English isn't perfect today. I haven't bothered to make it so). I immediately realised that I had learnt all but nothing at school while I was conforming to all those forced MoE-designed procedures. In part it was the schools fault because they didn't indentify real problems and then correct them by properly by explaining themselves (they didn't actually *teach*!), and in part it was mine because the only thing I ever wanted to do was to do enough so as to get the teacher out of my face so I that could then go home, forget school even exists, and live. A massive waste of time and life was the legacy of about 95% of my schooling. I'm afraid I know that for a fact. I never should have been there. I have experienced the learning difference too explicitly on too many different occasions to consider the MoE an authority on education - obviously, from my experience, they are not. So, Mr Key and National, I would like to see an education system that can accomodate for students like me (and other). I hope one day it happens, though I know that I would have to be a fool to expect serious change to come from our MoE.

#6.1 - Kelly Anderson 2009-08-31 17:08 - (Reply)

Hi Andrew, The good news is they have an education system for those round pegs. It is called Alternative Education. The bad news is to date the contracts between the MoE and the schools running AE in each area has not been renewed. They were considering dumping it altogether and returning the kids to mainstream. But we wait in anticipation as to what the 'experts' will decide. I am thankful that National has the holiday programme and other youth offending initaitives as maybe they can take the place of AE once it is culled from the budget as a cost saving strategy. I have been nice and withheld the media from our door but really enough is enough.

#6.1.1 - Andrew Atkin 2009-09-01 09:55 - (Reply)

Kelly, Thanks for your reply. The kind of alternative education that is truly 'alternative' is what is called Unschooling. This is where the educational institute (if that is the right word for it?) is reduced to a facility like a public library, and the educators are reduced to the status of consultants. Nothing is compulsory. There are no externally-prescribed objectives, nor "encouragement" to make a student move in somebody elses idealised developmental direction. The student is truly self-determined. I don't think that kind of learning-development is allowed in New Zealand? In other countries, such as America, it is. As it happens the kids generally have no difficulty independantly learning what they need to learn for life, as they do. However, it's a giant leap of faith for modern parents, politicans and would-be teachers because we are so brainwashed into the belief that you have to jump into bed with a kids brain to make it develop properly, and appropriately. Unschooling is not for round pegs as such, and normal schooling is not for "normals" - it just enforces the norm. And in my normal schooling enforces a terribly inefficient and unnatural form of controlled development - for almost all kids, whether they come to know the difference or not.

#7 - kelly Anderson 2009-08-31 17:00 - (Reply)

John, Great for disadvantaged kids to have somewhere to go in the holidays. But what about during term time? 100 kids in West Auckland who are in or near poverty are facing the closure of their schools next year because your Education Minister has yet to decide whether they should stay open. She is in Canada talking about Education but what about her own backyard. The longer the decision about Alternative Eduction the more likely providers will be forced to close. We were promised an annoucement in June then August and now we are told to wait another 3 weeks. It is not fair to put the stress on our young people who just want to get educated. No happy about the mickey mouse approach to the educational decisions that affect 1800 kids nationwide. Make a decision!

#8 - Norman Bamberger said:
2009-09-10 02:37 - (Reply)

Hi John. First let me be honest and tell you that I did not vote for you in the last election.I voted for NZ First because they were the only Party that had made significant changes for the elderly, ie I am loyal. Your performance so far has been fabulous, and nearly makes me wish I had voted for you, lucky you won. I have worked for a Youth Trust in many different ways and learned that getting funds or help from the Government for the Trust was the most difficult,in the early 1990's it was nearly impossible. It is fantastic to see the change and the positive attitude 'let us fix our 'at risk youth' problem'. One thing that I do not see mentioned anywhere is: Values and the concept of consequences. These can, and are being taught in many poor countries and also by many poor (and other) families in New Zealand. What I am saying is that money alone is not the cure, for that matter not even the Band-Aid. It sadly is the Media, mainly Television programs that have destroyed what ones was included and bastion for good education, namely: Respect for others and for yourself, and learning about consequences.Respect is something people give if you deserve to get it. Every intentional bad action makes someone else sad and/or angry, which often leads to more bad actions, etc.etc. I think a lot of people that are trying hard to be good citizens, are run down by the Bad-Mop because they get little support for their good behaviour.Like 10000 years ago we still punish the bad people but ignore the well-behaved. We still fight wars agaist the evil ones,but refuse to fight to preserve what is good in our society.Apathy and PC liberal ideas (Like having four green lights on an intersection, (Symbolically speaking) makes the present generation believe that: if I enjoy something then it is harmless. That kind of attitude condones a mass murderer or child molester.Parents can not teach their children what they have not been tought. Re-Educating through the schools is all what is left, but you need to empower the schools and teachers to do this once-again. Most people learn from their mistakes, but it is wiser to learn from other people mistake's. That is why we learn History. Follow your heart and use your mind John and I am sure most will follow you. Regards Norman

#9 - Brodie Andrews 2009-09-11 00:00 - (Reply)

Dear Mr Key; surely cutting finding to Adult Education is a stupid move and will directly impact on their children and the fabric of society...you talk lifelong learning and then act to MAKE NZ DUMBER...what a dumb idea We need evening classes in schools to assist immigrants to assimilate and gaps in childhood education be corrected , by keen motivated learners. Please reinstate funding asap....Brodie Andrews

#10 - Dianne Goldthorpe 2009-11-27 00:16 - (Reply)

Message for John Key, I like the sound of your package it sounds great, In every intermediate, high schools there should be at least 3 qualified counsellors and 3 social workers in the school system because I feel it takes the load of teachers who have not been trained as counsellors or social workers to deal with the youth and because they are there to teach. They do not have the time or the resources to find out why these students have behaviour issues/problems in the class room. There should be more funding in schools for counsellors and social workers who want to work with youth as such myself where I have a great passion for working with young youth and this is where the first port of call should be is in the schools before they adventure out into the real world, better prepared, better skilled and knowing how to cope out there. etc More opportunties for counsellors and social workers to work in a school with funding from the goverment, I see it as a great deal and it should be recoginised and avaliable in every high school in New Zealand. This is where the youth should be helped. There should be more money put into something more worth while in the education system, I do not know how many people would agree with me but I feel strongly about this and so does my collegues at school.


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