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15 January 2009
Prime Minister's Summit on Employment
Prime Minister John Key wants action from the Prime Minister's Summit on Employment to be held on 27 February in Auckland.
"The summit will be chaired by NZX chief executive officer Mark Weldon and will address a major challenge the country faces this year - how to retain and grow jobs.
"As I have stated many times, I am interested in what works, not ideology.
"New Zealand is facing challenging economic times as the global economic crisis washes over us. The National-led Government is implementing its economic plan, and we will see more initiatives in coming months.
"The summit will bring together business, union and other leaders in the community to address a vital part of a healthy economy - employment.
"A detailed agenda is still being developed, but we envisage that the summit will be open to the media.
"I am determined that this won't be a talk-fest. I want to see outcomes from the summit that we can move to examine and implement.
"In addition to the summit, I will be making a speech on the economy on Wednesday, 4 February, in Waitakere City.
"More details on the speech venue, and information on the summit, will be released in due course."
#1 - Anonymous 2009-01-17 14:05 - (Reply)
I would love to talk, or more reasonably at least get an e-mail given to Mr. Key. Is there a way to do this? Thank you. It sounds crazy, even I can see that. I really think he could give me some insight and I do believe I am worth any spare time he has. ADMIN: Email to the PM can be routed through the correspondence team via j.key@ministers.govt.nz if senders would like a reply.
#2 - Neil Holman 2009-01-18 05:21 - (Reply)
Maori flag on the harbour bridge, beaches off limits to non maoris. What next John? I thought you had the mood of the people in focus. Guess I was mistaken
#2.1 - Roger Bull 2009-01-23 17:48 - (Reply)
I am also confused as to why we have to start carving up the coastline and making it Maori only? That is apartheid in reverse. please do not do any more damage by seperatist ideologies. This country is for ALL New Zealanders not a chosen few. South Africa fought for years to get rid of this very type of lesiglation so why are you looking at bringing it in?
#2.2 - Helen 2009-01-23 20:38 - (Reply)
I agree with Neil Holman. Please stop pandering to radical interests. We are one country, one people and one flag and you were elected because we thought you believed in this. If you let a separatist flag fly anywhere, the radicals will unite behind it and there will be even more anarchy.
#3 - Frank Tyson 2009-01-30 10:12 - (Reply)
Prime Minister I am currently unemployed and for a period of 4 years have been fighting with WINZ to upscale my casual job into a small business One of the things that needs to come up at this summit is the Governments handling of The Enterprise Allowance Funding http://www.workandincome.govt.nz/individuals/a-z-benefits/enterprise-allowance.html With the current state of the economy maybe instead of paying people like me a benefit the government could look at the both the criteria of eligibility and funding for Enterprise Allowance which has been reviewed in 10-15 years Pay my way to your summit and I will produce a paper on the nightmares one faces when trying to get any help from them once your application has been declined
#4 - Bruce Nicol said:
2009-02-03 11:46 - (Reply)
Hi I think this is a fantastic opportunity to retool the people and infrastructure for the 21st century. My main concern is that with so much, rightly, emphasis on the infrastructure, and externals, we may be missing a huge chance to uttilise the inner creativity of the NZers. In 20 years working in the area of transforming individuals and releasing their creativity, in a practical way, we will still remain low productivity people. I am very happy to discuss this with anyone who has deep immagination. Kindest regards Bruce Nicol
#4.1 - Frank Tyson 2009-02-03 18:39 - (Reply)
Bruce Had a look at your site This is not what its all about My issue is with the Ministry of Social Development and its Minister and how they admnister the Enterprise Alowance Scheme It also concerns the fact that the Minister in some circumstances cant overrule decisions made by her departments in cases where those department were allocated funds to use at their own discretion
#5 - hal linstrom 2009-02-04 19:20 - (Reply)
Job Summit ideas The issue as, you know, is about creating Profitable Business and jobs follow. the obvious question….. what do the top 5 gdp per capita Countries do that we don’t. In a nutshell they do the following: • They play in the global consumption markets for everything – not just Dairy products a. Electronics – Design & Production ( own brands – owned by constituent shareholders / taxpayers) b. Food - as above c. Weapons – as above d. Infrastructure – JVs e. Governance – Legal – essentially exported their programs and expertise f. IT – Design g. Management & Facilities Management h. Petro Chemicals and Chemicals i. Automotive & Transportation • What do they have that we don’t?: a. Higher Standard of Education – far more Masters & PHD graduates than most other 1st world Countries. b. Targeted career choices – Engineers , Bio Chemists c. High taxation rates d. Significant support for “winners” They also have very strong Unions and a strong desire to preserve and protect. Where to for NZ? • Need to take a 30 – 50 year Horizon. • Revamp the education system especially the Universities to produce globally demanded skills – not Bcomms and BA students who can argue the leg off a table but exist on welfare. o Make education free for all Masters students who study Bio Chemistry , Technology, Electronics and other targeted areas o Provide Entrepreneurial grants for Students who can directly from University practice what they preach and not get absorbed into Corporates who sap them of their innovation and time. • Play in the globally demanded arena – everyone wants and need these : o Transportation – Public and Private Look at light weight vehicles with alternative technologies and fuel systems o Develop alternative fuel sources and systems – new engine designs o Create Beach Head NZ The Government acquires Land and buildings in all the major CBDs of the world that we want to trade with. These sites become the focus for NZ based traders , Tourism etc Greenfiled and fledging operators can operate form these locations. We need to ameliorate the barrier of distance and create our own global shipping fleet that can efficiently deliver products quickly to most global destinations. that should keep us busy ...
#6 - brian 2009-02-24 11:21 - (Reply)
There are a lot of smart people like myself who no longer believe in employing anyone anymore as the system -even for the good employers- is stacked against your best endeavours. For example how do you make a small business pay when you take out 4 weeks holiday, 10 stats, all the sick days plus bereavement leave plus taxes on kiwisaver, ACC,and the constant threat of wrongful dismissal from unscrupulous employees. The risks are too high and together with normal business risks are not worth it. Many of my business friends have down scaled as small as they can, do the work themselves and have a life for once.
#6.1 - Anonymous 2009-02-26 20:52 - (Reply)
it is a proactive response we need in business and employment. we have been in business for 30 years with good and bad outcomes. it is how you the employer views your team around you. if you value them train and support them they will give thier best and they deserve all the benefits you complain about. it is a responsible employer who ensures productivity and growth. sure you get some diapointments but that is what life is about. we need to be more positive and look to what we as individuals can do
#7 - Chris Ward 2009-02-26 08:48 - (Reply)
Hi Take this to the Employment summit!! INCREASING WAGES AND SALARIES RIGHT AROUND THE WORLD IS THE BEST THING TO DO. When "world leaders" all gather together at summits they are like cattle in a pen, not knowing where to go or where to look. They need to find a gate to run through. Well here it is. If they could all look hard in this direction they'll see the light. All they have to do is AGREE TO DO IT ALL TOGETHER. INFLATION! Of course it will cause inflation. But we've already had inflation....in the price of assets! Now we need some inflation at the wages end to even things up. Economies work and grow and we all get wealthier when there's BALANCE. That's the fundamental task of government..... to ensure BALANCE between greed and need, rich and poor, safety and pleasure, humanity and the environment........AND THEY'VE ALL FAILED. EVERY DAMNED ONE OF THEM. Right wing or left, Capitalist or communist. They're duds. Read the attachment. Sorry its a work in progress. Can't sit on it any longer. Regards, Chris
#8 - Chris Ward 2009-02-26 08:51 - (Reply)
Global Economic Crisis I believe I have an idea which may help. It’s basically very simple and has sound logic though it would be the subject of a book rather than a letter. However I have no time for writing books and I believe people should start thinking and talking about it. It’s a one off because this is a global crisis. It would not work unless all the affected countries acted together. All the developed and developing nations affected by this crisis should allow or encourage wages and salaries to rise. The mechanisms would vary from country to country but in the case of New Zealand it could be through benefits, pensions, minimum wages public servants salaries, award rates etc forcing all wages, salaries, commodities and services up. This would mean that houses and property, shares and other capital assets whose price has been allowed to rise beyond the reach of those who ultimately pay for them are again affordable. It would mean that the market values do not have to fall (as far) to make the assets affordable. Thus many collapses and business failures would be averted and bank loans would continue to be backed by adequate equity. Clearly market restraints including appropriate interest rates and bank lending ratios and restraints on dodgy practices and financial instruments (which should always have been in place) would have to be applied simultaneously. Maybe loans should be limited to a percentage of the “sustainable value” of the asset (meaning that the repayments on the loan should not be higher than the net income possible from the asset). I know this is a radical concept but in principle it’s just a matter of using inflation as a tool to do what it does naturally – distort the economy – back to where it should have been before it was distorted by inappropriate and/or ineffective management of the relevant markets. The alternative for the future is an economic malaise like the one Japan has been in for many years. There’s value in this for all, no matter what their stake in the economy. I can hear all the criticisms and associated problems and the experts who got us into the shambles we’re in saying it’s a stupid idea. Trouble is it’s the best idea I’ve heard of. In fact it’s the only idea I’ve heard of to avert excessive public debt and consequent long to medium term stagnation and failure. Another Version The idea is for all the governments of the countries affected by the crisis to allow/encourage or even force wages and salaries to rise. It is crucial that this would have to be a deliberate Global Process. Thinking unilaterally it makes total nonsense but the one thing which we can all agree on is that we have a Global Problem so we need to think of unified Global Action. This provides the opportunity for lateral thinking. I know it sounds like a crazy left wing plan but consider the following. 1. The core problem behind the current crisis is that market values for crucial assets have exceeded their “sustainable value”. Meaning the value of the assets is not supported by the income they can generate (other than by trading the assets themselves). There are other issues such as dodgy lending practices and financial instruments, but the fundamental correction required is in the value of the assets. Either the assets come down (eroding the equity supporting mortgages and loans and causing the widespread failure and grief which we are currently witnessing) or incomes can come up. This would restore the ability of consumers, property owners, share holders etc to pay for their debt and businesses to generate income and dividends to provide a satisfactory return on share prices. 2. Trying to stimulate economies by lowering interest rates is actually encouraging the problem in “1” to persist. Think of the economy as being divided into two ends: Asset values at one end and the means by which those asset values are supported (the income of the average income earner) at the other. Lowering interest rates is supporting the wrong end of the economy (the asset end for which values are already too high). It’s the income end which needs supporting. Also lowering interest rates clearly has limited effect as demonstrated by the UK and US because at even minimal interest rates things are not really turning around. 3. Low interest rates drive deposits away from banks making it difficult for them to provide the loans necessary to support business and investment and generally making troubled banks less viable. In fact under my plan interest rates would have to be raised and other controls on lending would have to be tightened. This would restore banks’ liquidity and viability. My plan would greatly reduce the government support required by the banks because many non-viable loans would become viable. 4. Increasing incomes will increase tax income (other things remaining equal) which will reduce governments’ fiscal deficits resulting from all the stimuli (this one included) being used to retain or create jobs. All the government loans to banks etc would be able to be paid back faster. Notes and observations 1. A basic observation is that markets tend to boom and bust. It has happened time and again. What amazes me is that: a. Economists have not found a solution to this b. Governments permit it to happen. Basically once a market has boomed beyond the “sustainable level”, further “growth” in the market actually turns the assets into chain letters or partially so anyway. Basically the market just goes on trading up until it runs out of confidence or “takers” and the “bubble bursts”. Sounds just like a chain letter to me! I thought this type of trading was illegal? Maybe you could even construct a legal case against the Stock Exchange and others around this. 2. Consider a market like an aeroplane which we all know needs appropriate controls all properly designed and tuned to work properly so that the aeroplane can be flown smoothly and safely in the desired direction and at an appropriate height and level. In the case of markets we clearly either don’t have the appropriate controls or we don’t know how to use them. It’s almost as though we’re trying to fly the aeroplane backwards. Thank God economists and politicians don’t design aeroplanes! 3. I personally believe we need a further control on lending. I hate controls and rules because they encourage delinquency. However I suggest lending against assets should be limited by the income available from the asset (other than income achieved by trading the asset itself, of cause). I know this would have all sorts of implications such as restricting the trade in gold, bonds etc, but when you think it through, maybe that’s not such a bad thing. We definitely need to encourage productive investment rather than hoarding investment and such a control would have that effect. I also realize that all sorts of auditing and policing would be necessary (most of it would be automatically achieved by the bank’s computer system). Anyway auditing and enforcement is necessary for the controls we have now. 4. As interest rates are increased to rein in lending, the opposite actually happens if markets are rampant. More money is attracted to banks so they have more to lend. So long as the “growth” in the markets is fast enough the high interest rates don’t matter and the banks become more reckless because their loans are always supported by the rising value of the markets and they enjoy huge profits etc etc. High bank liquidity and reckless lending were prominent phenomena during the last months before our current troubles. 5. Markets can actually rise with almost no influence from interest rates or money supply. Consider the following hypothetical situation: You have a “market” consisting of 100 investors who own 100 properties between them each property worth $10,000. “007” can agree to buy the property of “99” for $11,000 without borrowing, finding or earning a cent provided another investor will buy his property for $11,000. All the investors can do the same deal between themselves and no money needs to enter the system (apart from bridging loans which act as the “lubricant”). These trades can go on and on until the values are out of reach of anyone outside the system. This is, of cause, a grossly simplified model but it highlights one of the factors which renders interest rates and monetary policy ineffective and in fact inappropriate in times of inflamed markets. 6. Inflation: We seem to have an obsession with it ever since we discovered monetary policy and the OCR. What we seem to have forgotten is the reason we need to control inflation. Inflation is bad not just because its damned inefficient having to adjust for it all the time but because of the distortions it causes in the economy. We need to be like Einstein and focus on relativity, not just inflation for its own sake. What has happened lately is that inflation has been reasonably (though not rigorously enough) controlled but we have allowed relativity to sneak through the cracks. We’ve forgotten the key objective of what we set out to achieve by controlling inflation in the first place. However, having reminded ourselves which is the objective and which is the tool we can use the tool to restore relativity to the economy. I.e. introduce an appropriate degree of inflation at the correct end of the economy to restore relativity between incomes and asset values. This is the crux of my suggestion. The Three Key Elements to this idea that you have to combine to see the merits and possibilities: 1. The relationship between wages and asset values is economically very important and has gone out of kilter. (Think of why houses are unaffordable). It must be restored before recovery can be achieved. Either wages must rise or values must fall. 2. Wages could be raised globally in a synchronized manner so that competitiveness does not alter significantly. 3. Inflation is abhorrent mostly because of the distortions it causes, but for that very reason it can be used to correct distortions as well. We hear economists talking of “the elephant in the room” being inflation. But because they have a fixation with inflation they have forgotten the reason they don’t like it and they are missing the opportunity I have seen. Chris Ward




